synthesizer preference

Category: Geeks r Us

Post 1 by Binary solo (the Zone BBS remains forever my home page) on Sunday, 07-Dec-2014 19:35:51

Hi people
I'm curious to get to know what you think about the different synthesizers that are available to us and by that I mean speech synths. I'd like to hear what yu use and why you like the synths you do use. Do you prefer to use one and always use that one or do you like to change them every once in a while.
And an afterthought: Why is eloquence so damn good, and how fast can you crank it?

Post 2 by GreenTurtle (Music is life. Love. Vitality.) on Sunday, 07-Dec-2014 23:37:57

I use Eloquence, because that's what I've always used.
I tried some of the higher quality voices that are available with recent versions of Jaws, but it was just really odd not to have Eloquence reading my screen. I did like the quality and slightly better inflection that the other voices have, but they tend to mispronounce more words. And, for some reason, it just didn't feel as though I was using Jaws, because the voice was different.
Same with NVDA. While Espeak makes me cringe, I don't think I'd change it. Partially, that's because I don't use NVDA enough to seriously consider it, and partially it's because Espeak is "NVDA's voice" to me.
Maybe I'm weird, but that's how I see it.

Post 3 by DevilishAnthony (Just go on and agree with me. You know you want to.) on Monday, 08-Dec-2014 10:37:54

I like Eloquence. It's very responsive, and I'm used to it. I can understand it better than any other speech synth I've tried so far.

Post 4 by Imprecator (The Zone's Spelling Nazi) on Monday, 08-Dec-2014 10:46:15

I'm with posts 2 and 3. I've used Eloquence since 1998. I also like DEC-Talk, but it doesn't seem to be available anymore.

Post 5 by Ed_G (Zone BBS is my Life) on Monday, 08-Dec-2014 16:36:24

I use Eloquence on the PC with all my Windows screen readers, and Alex on the
Mac and iOS devices. I've never really liked the RealSpeak and other natural
sounding voices because they always sound slightly off if they mispronounce a
word. Eloquence and others are supposed to be synthetic so I don't mind them
sounding so. I used to really like the Keynote Gold synthesisers and was
disappointed when they discontinued their Multimedia software synth, so it's
been Eloquence for me for over 15 years.

Post 6 by Imprecator (The Zone's Spelling Nazi) on Monday, 08-Dec-2014 19:04:20

Keynote was fun to fuck around with. If you put the speech rate and the pitch all the way down, it would squeak at the end of sentences.

Post 7 by battle star queen (I just keep on posting!) on Monday, 08-Dec-2014 21:37:48

A friend and I used to make keynote do some weird things. if you make an entire line of a, then play it back, it actually soundled like our braillenotes were screaming.!

Post 8 by Imprecator (The Zone's Spelling Nazi) on Tuesday, 09-Dec-2014 15:08:51

It sounded scared when it would read a question.

Post 9 by LeoGuardian (You mean there is something outside of this room with my computer in it?) on Wednesday, 10-Dec-2014 11:54:03

I like a lot of things about Alex on iOS, I don't use a mac so can't compare. But it seems to mispronounce more words than the normal female VoiceOver voice does. Especially names. Not really sure why that would be, though. And lol to Post 2: You know, I practically see my iPhone as female because the voice has been that female voice for so many years, so switching over to Alex was a bit dysphoric for some reason. But I switch back and forth between Eloquence and the Vocalizer Expressive with JAWS, and use eloquence with NVDA.

Post 10 by JH_Radio (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Wednesday, 10-Dec-2014 18:02:49

I use Eloquence cause like anth I can understand it best.i also love alex, and that is one of the things that was a major consideration with me getting the iPhone. I also like the narrator voice Dave in Windows 8, though I haven't heard that much.

Post 11 by VioletBlue (Help me, I'm stuck to my chair!) on Thursday, 11-Dec-2014 0:13:09

Eloquence, and nothing else. It's less fatiguing to my ear than the so-called humanlike voices. I only wish there was a way to listen to Daisy text files with a synth voice. Why doesn't one of these small Daisy players use one?

Post 12 by Binary solo (the Zone BBS remains forever my home page) on Thursday, 11-Dec-2014 0:35:51

The vr Stream does have a few tts voices built into it, I think you press 9 to switch over to tts mode.

Post 13 by Voyager (I just keep on posting!) on Thursday, 11-Dec-2014 12:17:21

I mostly use ESpeak.

Does the Alex voice still breathe? I found that very strange.

Post 14 by Imprecator (The Zone's Spelling Nazi) on Thursday, 11-Dec-2014 15:00:16

I kinda miss the old Eloquence that came with Jaws 3.2. It had almost a Russian sounding accent.

Post 15 by JH_Radio (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Thursday, 11-Dec-2014 21:10:04

yes Alex still breathe's. its waaay cool!

Post 16 by LeoGuardian (You mean there is something outside of this room with my computer in it?) on Friday, 12-Dec-2014 13:07:49

A few of the international voices breathe also, or at least used to. I don't mess with those anymore, haven't in at least a year. But the Irish one and I think Australia female one used to breathe on the iPhone.

Post 17 by Imprecator (The Zone's Spelling Nazi) on Friday, 12-Dec-2014 16:11:01

The old Eloquence used to breathe at the end of sentences or somewhere in the middle.

Post 18 by Socheat (Veteran Zoner) on Friday, 12-Dec-2014 19:08:37

I used eloquence with jaws, and DECTalk with NVDA.

Post 19 by Imprecator (The Zone's Spelling Nazi) on Saturday, 13-Dec-2014 11:28:38

Is it a software DECtalk?

Post 20 by JH_Radio (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Saturday, 13-Dec-2014 11:48:05

I cant stand ESpeak.

Post 21 by Senior (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Sunday, 14-Dec-2014 17:01:41

Ivona with Jaws, NVDA (on my own computers), Kurzweil 1000 and Narrator, SVOX Pico with NVDA (USB), and Google Talkback with Telorion.

Post 22 by Dave_H (the boringest guy you'll ever know) on Sunday, 14-Dec-2014 17:07:45

A speech synth should not be "natural" sounding, rather, it should be responsive, neutral, fast, free-and-open source..... And the winners are.... Espeak and Flite!

Post 23 by Imprecator (The Zone's Spelling Nazi) on Sunday, 14-Dec-2014 21:57:20

No. It should be all those things, and natural sounding.

Post 24 by kool_turk (This site is so "educational") on Monday, 15-Dec-2014 0:04:41

I like using the Robert variant with NVDA.

Cranking the inflection to 100 and having the speed set to 55 without using the rate boost.

All the other eSpeak variants sound more robotic.

Post 25 by chelslicious (like it or not, I'm gonna say what I mean. all the time.) on Monday, 15-Dec-2014 0:48:30

I primarily use eloquence right now, but I use the Decktalk voice with NVDA, too, sometimes.
to answer a previous question about that, the Decktalk voice is not software, but just something you can install, in addition to NVDA.

Post 26 by blindaudio (Zone BBS Addict) on Wednesday, 17-Dec-2014 3:55:46

I personally like eloquence, because that is what I'm used to, but like someone else here, I used to like keynote gold speech, but don't care for it much anymore.

The problem I have found with the realspeak synths is that they aren't nearly as responsive as I would have liked. I like Daniel, Samantha, and Tom, but they are not nearly as snappy as eloquence. And don't get me started on espeak, I hate, hate, hate it! Some people love it because it is way too robotic for my liking.

I do like the heather voice, but that's the only one from that particular company of which I like.

So all in all, eloquence for me. If realspeak was more responsive, I'd use it more.

Post 27 by Imprecator (The Zone's Spelling Nazi) on Wednesday, 17-Dec-2014 15:19:44

Be nice if they added a voice inflection option to Eloquence.

Post 28 by kool_turk (This site is so "educational") on Wednesday, 17-Dec-2014 22:44:44

NVDA's Eloquence has it, but that's not exactly legal.

Post 29 by blindaudio (Zone BBS Addict) on Friday, 19-Dec-2014 7:04:19

Everyone has it, so who cares anymore?

I'm not a nvda user, because I personally don't like it, but it's just one of those things.

Post 30 by chelslicious (like it or not, I'm gonna say what I mean. all the time.) on Friday, 19-Dec-2014 20:04:38

I use NVDA, at times, not only cause it does some things better than my other screen reader does, but cause, if my other screen reader crashes, it's nice to have a backup, so I can still use my computer.

Post 31 by Binary solo (the Zone BBS remains forever my home page) on Saturday, 20-Dec-2014 7:17:32

Nobody using Vocalizer expressive. I like those voices. They are the realspeak voices only a lot more responsive.

Post 32 by Imprecator (The Zone's Spelling Nazi) on Saturday, 20-Dec-2014 14:00:12

They sound weird to me.

Post 33 by Socheat (Veteran Zoner) on Saturday, 27-Dec-2014 22:03:00

@post 19, it is a dectalk addons for NVDA.

Post 34 by nikos (English words from a Greek thinking brain) on Sunday, 28-Dec-2014 16:36:35

I like all the synthetick synths. Eloquence, dolphin orpheus and espeak.
The synthetick synths have got another advantage for us who speak another language.Espeak and orpheus when we choose Greek we can read both Greek and English with the same voice.
Now try to read some English with the Greek voice from vocalizer or loquendo and you won't understand anything.
Nikos

Post 35 by just-chillin (Zone BBS is my Life) on Sunday, 28-Dec-2014 21:37:01

Lolz, like 3 people in this thread mentioned they like E Speak, doesn't
that say how gross it is? Eloquence is the only logical option. Kid
annoying when someone uses the open source aspect of the synth to
justify why it's better. No, if it doesn't come across your ears like a
cheese greater with a frog in it's throat, I'd say it's a reasonable synth.
And those the people not on here that have even said eloquence is old
and slow, I just say, whatttttt?

Post 36 by Voyager (I just keep on posting!) on Monday, 29-Dec-2014 0:52:41

Of course, the majority is always right.

Post 37 by blake (Zone BBS Addict) on Sunday, 02-Aug-2015 11:51:58

I use Eloquence most of the time. However, for variety while using Jaws I use either Ivona voices which I purchased when the company sold to consumers or a voice from Cepstral. In my view Cepstral's voices don't sound nearly as good as Ivona's with two exceptions. The Cepstral voices Dallas with a Texas accent and Belle who has a U.S. southern drawl are the best-sounding Cepstral voices in my opinion. When using NVDA at home, I use the Acapela for NVDA voices. I love having NVDA read via Acapela voices, so purchasing that was well worth the money!

Post 38 by Senior (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Sunday, 02-Aug-2015 16:42:26

Recently I have been using the Acapela voices with NVDA. I think they are good value for money.

Post 39 by Imprecator (The Zone's Spelling Nazi) on Sunday, 02-Aug-2015 21:33:09

I miss that speech demo on the web with the valley girl voice.